Jesta的季前赛首日记（作者：Jesta）
by Doomsday on Feb.14, 2007, under Uncategorized
能在Ming的季前赛队伍中以一个治疗者的身份对竞技场作一些前瞻性的了解是非常令人激动的。所以我决定撰写这样一篇短小的文章来总结一下心得体会。关于Ming在他文章中提到的我的“古怪的天赋配点”，我用着非常顺手，并且在我们活动结束之后，我和我的另一个好友Ringmaster又一起玩了好久2v2竞技场，他是这个服务器的另一个知名盗贼。
首先，我简单说说我的天赋。我目前采用的是13戒律、35神圣、13暗影，一种三修天赋。经过一个星期的反复试验多种不同的配点，我可以说我现在用的这种表现是最令人惊异的，它的精髓有点类似于德鲁伊，你拥有对自身足够的生存能力、对队友强大的支援能力，并且当不得不独自面对敌人的时候，你还有凶狠的进攻手段来争取胜利。欢迎任何人提出关于这种天赋的意见或建议，我上周已经在体验各种不同的PvP天赋上花费了500G，如果可能，请分享你的经验。
第一天，我认为最郁闷的事情来自于Ming所说的那支本服部落队（法师、法师、德鲁伊、牧师、萨满）。每次遇到他们我都会首当其冲受到夹击。两个法师带着水元素把我冰住，对我发射寒冰箭和冰枪，同时他们的萨满也用1500伤害的闪电狠狠砸我，如此这般的招呼之下，一会儿我就不得不GG了。这时唯一有帮助的天赋就是法术守护（Spell Warding，10%法术伤害减免）了，而无论是神恩庇佑、神恩回复、心灵之火、艾露恩的优雅甚至是痛苦压制都不足以抵抗如此凶猛的火力，虽然理论上说痛苦压制能稍微延长生存时间，但是不要忘了萨满无时无刻不在净化我身上的buff。想要在集中火力之下存活的唯一方法就是尽快击败他们。
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February 14th, 2007 on 6:47 am
中国沙发
February 14th, 2007 on 6:50 am
沙發二
February 14th, 2007 on 6:50 am
樓上貌似沒有女朋友?
February 14th, 2007 on 6:50 am
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February 14th, 2007 on 6:55 am
MING能有这样的队友 太棒了
Ming:
对Jesta第一天的表现其实非常不满意， 无论天赋还是打法都没完全放弃暗牧那一套。 竞技场是没戏的。
我会努力找个矮子的。 暗夜真的很废。
February 14th, 2007 on 7:55 am
如Jesta这样优秀的MS,在Vent里是否也拥有一副能激励整队斗志的坚定而浑厚的好嗓子呢 ?^^
February 14th, 2007 on 7:58 am
Jesta:
你好,我是台灣的玩家,使用繁體請見諒
我也是牧師的愛好者,對於競技場牧師,你選擇三俢是個很好的遠見
在存活、補血、控制三者的考量很獨到!
以下是我的一點小小建議跟文章鏈結:
1.對於存活,建議你能多運用遮蔽視野,避免被集火與延長存活時間
http://www.wowguild.com.tw/wlog.php?wlogID=130528&mode=ViewTopic&t=1977
2.對於目標,由於台灣跟中國都還沒有更新資料片,我不確定舊UI是否還可用
但對於目標的目標,以及目標的目標的目標,如果能全拉出來,牧師儘可能掌握全局誰在看誰,再加上TeamSpeak,可以提前、有效、有默契地補起被集火的隊友
3.對於天賦,我有嘗試性地去點,雖然是想像沒經過測試,但我有將思路寫出來,或許可以跟你的想法有些碰撞
http://www.wowguild.com.tw/wlog.php?wlogID=130528&mode=ViewTopic&t=17441
Best Regards
期待你們的隊伍持續銳變
February 14th, 2007 on 8:20 am
祝你们在小战场取得好 成绩！
February 14th, 2007 on 8:50 am
如果你们足够努力，并且你们的法师也能发几个帖子，或者你们可以发些法师相关的帽子的话。。。。。。
你们就有机会参加在中国举行的全球总决赛啦！！！！！！！！！！
（回二可楼的，我的女朋友还在海选呢。）
February 14th, 2007 on 9:17 am
《像术士一样的盗贼》
作为一个盗贼，一个喜欢pvp的盗贼。 在tbc中盗贼被严重消弱以后，我花了太多的gold洗点以尝试不同的天赋。如今我正在使用一种我以前根本不会考虑的天赋。而且取得了令人惊叹的效果。
Level 70 Rogue (26/0/35)
Assassination (26 points)
Improved Eviscerate - Rank 3/3
Malice - Rank 5/5
Ruthlessness - Rank 3/3
Murder - Rank 2/2
Relentless Strikes - Rank 1/1
Lethality - Rank 1/5
Vile Poisons - Rank 5/5
Improved Poisons - Rank 5/5
Cold Blood - Rank 1/1
Combat (0 points)
None
Subtlety (35 points)
Master of Deception - Rank 5/5
Opportunity - Rank 5/5
Improved Sap - Rank 2/2
Camouflage - Rank 3/5
Initiative - Rank 3/3
Improved Ambush - Rank 3/3
Serrated Blades - Rank 3/3
Preparation - Rank 1/1
Hemorrhage - Rank 1/1
Master of Subtlety - Rank 3/3
Deadliness - Rank 5/5
Premeditation - Rank 1/1
我的理论依据是盗贼在面对战士，小德，牧师，术士，圣骑，撒满的时候，最大的问题是暴露时间+dps的冲突。毁伤和战斗贼， dps高但暴露时间太长，肯定被打断。所以这就是当你真的用了这两个天赋后还会怀念30-0-31（ming)天赋的原因。另一方面，像30-0-31之类的天赋又面临dps严重不足（跑位找背等原因影响），只能靠5星伏击冷剔爆发。但往往又都是在无用功。对方的治疗不是摆那好看的。所以，我试验中的这个天赋主要有以下几点关键性的优势，希望大家认真考虑，也希望对ming有所帮助，为华人争光。不管怎么说也是花费了千g后的一些经验。
1.致死，致伤毒，预谋绞喉 》出血/shiv 》割裂。在这套天赋支持下（装备以+ap为主），起手后，将给对方身上一个4000的dot。而且相比其他职业的dot是无法解除这个恐怖的dot.并且对方身上还留有致伤毒。起手后可以根据对方行动而决定是再加满5层致伤后消失还是开闪避硬拼。出血伤害是低了点。但加上闪避的15秒和平砍伤害也是可以杀人的。别忘了还有一个5星预谋伏击冷剃。盗贼起手Dot的好处就是给对方治疗极大的压力和精力。你照顾这个我就去5星预谋伏击冷剃其它人。
2.面对盗贼，我有一个几乎不需要运气的偷袭》5星肾击。你还有你的队友。伤害方面你真的不要太担心。如果说你用出血杀不了对方盗贼，你用背刺也好不到哪去。背刺不暴，损失是巨大的。现在在一个9-10秒的stunlock中，能暴1次就算是不错了，暴2次都要算运气好了。而且每次背刺后的6秒回能量就是对方杀你和用徽章的时机。相信这不是什么高深的技术。多一句嘴，我现在是25%暴，在tbc盗贼中应该是不低了。装备不是很牛，但我是珠宝师，我用的宝石是最好的。学宝石学很不错，有gold才是硬道理，冲声望用gold就可以了。
3.面队法师，我就不多说了。就提一点， 你是辅助队友去杀法师而不是用光技能去杀一个法师（很亏很亏）盗贼现在不是法师的克星了（我指竞技场中）我现在在竞技场中就是5星伏击冷剔法师以后立马闪人。再耗下去被对方一控制就是死。盗贼stun厉害，也最怕stun.
4.相比战斗，毁伤。我用毒和出血，不需要找背，不担心治疗。思路就是用毒和不停恢复的能量换你的蓝。
总之，这个天赋不是太完善，但只是希望引出个思考，在对方治疗的辅助下，是给对方一个5000的不可驱散的dot好呢，还是一个5000的硬伤害好呢。我现在是觉得至少在对战士和小德的时候dot 还是好于硬伤害。所以希望大家都出出主意，尝试尝试，近一步完善这种太极(软硬都有)盗贼的打发。
February 14th, 2007 on 9:23 am
其实带强化背刺的30-0-31用这种dot打法会更灵活。我也一直在苦恼只中。还是抗议一句，凭什么druid的伤害比盗贼高，还不需要找背。真的想买个德玩算了。现在德号不好买。
Ming:
现阶段不会考虑任何出血天赋。
2.0.7治伤和致死不再叠加， 也不会考虑任何毒药天赋。
February 14th, 2007 on 10:28 am
真羨慕你們兩位，我也何嘗不想專心在PVP上，只可惜台版連2.0的影子都還沒看到 orz …
February 14th, 2007 on 10:35 am
‘2.0.7治伤和致死不再叠加， 也不会考虑任何毒药天赋。’
那还是别出血了。就战斗和毁伤吧
February 14th, 2007 on 2:08 pm
[quote]说时迟那时快，我以迅雷不及掩耳盗铃之势[/quote]
哈哈哈，Doomsday你太幽默了！
February 14th, 2007 on 4:26 pm
MING 这样的队友已经很棒了.不断思考中成长.或许有一天楼主会为世界级的比赛而改为矮子M.很期待MING的队伍成长!加油. 明天就是中国的三十了.祝福MING春节快乐.
P.s MING喜欢火影里的哪个角色.
February 14th, 2007 on 4:27 pm
Jesta我玩过牧师的,感觉三修牧师的天赋并不好.你出了精神鞭笞,就像MING说的一样,没有完全放弃暗牧的打法.如果五人队就二个治疗,你出这样的三修天赋的话,碰到强队,治疗压力还是相当大的.因为在治疗方面,你只能发挥牧师的50%-60%治疗能力.并且抗击打能力并不强.
我认为五人竞技场,在不能磕药的情况下,戒律系的心灵之力(就是提高10%蓝的天赋)是很有必要加上的,还有神圣系的法术屏障(减10%的法术伤害)这个天赋很实用.以上理由是当你受到对方法师等高爆发性职业的狂轰滥炸,你有足够的蓝和足够的韧性治疗自己,拖的越久对方的信心就打击越大,还可以抽出空来给已方队友治疗.
你的天赋因为出了精神鞭笞,对近战等职业可能有点优势,但我认为在小队里只有二个治疗的情况下,神圣戒律牧更能体现出牧师的韧性和作用.又想治疗又想贡献点DPS是很矛盾的.
治疗是默默无文的职业,贡献没有DPS职业来的直接,但在竞技场上为队友加上血绝对是要操作水平的活,你是DPS职业的坚强后盾.
我很欣赏一句话:对手可能不记得你们的DPS多强,但绝对会记得你们的治疗多么厉害.
你已经在暗牧方面证明了自己,要想有所突破的话,我觉得神戒牧也是一个挑战的方向哦.哈哈,,
以上是我个人的看法,不足的请指正.
February 14th, 2007 on 4:28 pm
12楼 台F的兄弟? 好歹你们资料片4月出台.国内…还在无语中…..
February 14th, 2007 on 8:03 pm
你对牧师5v5根本没有了解，你的配点非常糟糕。看看公认的几支强队nurfed eminence insominia notorious tao vicious cycle 的牧师的公认配点28/33 就知道你还有很多要学。 高水准的5v5不允许任何人的任何失误，更何况是基本的天赋配点，如果你坚持这种配法我很怀疑你们能走多远。
February 14th, 2007 on 9:08 pm
我现在也在熟悉MING大前段时间所说的30/0/31.
还有15小时左右OF竞技场就开启了, 期待.
另外问下,9,10楼的Superbreak, 你是在英服玩的么? 如果是的话,我是和你一个战场组的.
February 14th, 2007 on 10:11 pm
暗夜太渣了……
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一个严重的种族问题被暴露了，并非偶然。
我想作为联盟方想要从事PVP生涯的话，NE的战士和猎人也许有必要考虑使用，毕竟利用影遁等先手的机会不是什么坏事，但是作为牧师和盗贼来说非常的糟糕，几乎没有任何优势可言。
在2.0之后有了斗篷开始，连矮人贼的存在都变得让人觉得可有可无。
在人类/矮人牧师的绝望祷言，矮人牧师的防恐结界面前，NE的牧师的影遁和星辰碎片实在太废了。
不知道以后是否会修改这些设定，不然很多人又要重头练人类或者矮子了。
我一个装备很好的NE贼朋友告诉我，如果花一千元可以改变他的种族他宁愿去玩其他三个种族都不想玩NE……
竞技场人类感知流还是非常有效的我想。种族天赋和技能不知道以后能不能得到更新……
February 15th, 2007 on 8:48 pm
J 是个很乐观的MS,MING这样说是否太绝……….
任何游戏都不平衡,相信暴血不会让他们的作品变得这么无聊,NE其实很帅,盗贼不是有NIAR吗!
February 16th, 2007 on 5:16 am
ming,想请求你把你对各个职业的分析翻译成为中文，目前你只把战士和ss翻译成了中文，我相信大多数中国玩家多余篇幅较长的英文文章理解有一定难度～
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